International Proposes a 3rd Round of YRC Concessions

Updated September 10, 2010: The Hoffa administration will again ask YRCW Teamsters to vote to approve concessions, provided that YRCW management agrees to certain terms.

The concessions are valued at $350 million per year, and would run until March 2015, nearly five years, according to sources at the International union. This is two years beyond the expiration of the NMFA in March 2013.

Since the present pension concession, due to expire at the end of the year, amounts to about $350 million per year, this proposal appears to be approximately similar, at least in total dollar value of the concessions.

The International Union is calling on YRCW, for its part, to not renew the contract of CEO Bill Zollars, a point that many Teamster members called for back in the first and second concession votes. They are also calling for more equity-for-debt deals to be negotiated with YRCW’s lenders, so that banks would own more stock in exchange for reducing YRCW’s heavy debt load.

Part of the current concessions package—YRCW’s withdrawal from the Teamster pension plans—is slated to expire on Dec. 31, 2010. The new concession proposal appears to be a replacement for this one. The 15 percent wage concession is to expire with the contract in 2013.

What will the impact be on the pension credits of YRCW Teamsters? That is a question thousands of Teamsters will have up-front. A five-year concession package, well beyond the expiration of the contract: that will be another concern, as Teamsters will be approached for an unprecedented third time.

Teamsters for a Democratic Union will make further information available to members as soon as we can. The ratification vote of the members is projected to take place in October.

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What a joke !  If yrc can not make it on what we gave them already maybe they should close. 

We as Teamsters have given up too much and have not received a simple thank you or respect from management . Tyson johnson has given up many of the rights that our Teamster brothers and sisters have fought for through the years . After all we given up the company continues to operates carelessly . i know we have a lot to loose if we go under but we cant afford to give up any more . Teamsters till the end

I have had enough of the give backs. I say NO! I dont care about any reprocussions. Enough is enough. Management will suufer to and that is good enough for me. They treat us like crap, our union isnt behind us. This company wants to get it in writing so when they start making money they can screw us even harder

are you kidding.  Do you really believe that tyson johnson and the hoffa  staff are looking out for the good of the yrc teamsters.  This is another example of  the mismanaged rand and file.  I totally disagree with another round of concessions for the bargaining unit.  I think it is time for the yrc execs and board to look at Zollars and all the other overpaid and under worked to suck it up and take the same type of life concessions that the brothers have taken.  As for the international goes I think that they have lost there way also.  They need to take a major cut in there pay and benefits also and see how that feels to there families.  Stand together yrc and stop the bleeding.  No more concessions.

YRC and the International want more concessions. What more can we give? The company wants and wants but when we the members want something the company does not want to work with us. It's time to say enough is enough, either we work together or just close the doors.Jeffrey AcordLocal 377

MOVING ZOLLARS OUT AFTER THE DAMAGE IS DONE IS A TO LITTLE TO LATE, AND FOR THE I.B.T. AND Y R C  TO ASK ME (US) TO PAY FOR IT WITH A "THIRD ROUND OF CONCESSIONS"............NO WAY !!! WE AT YRC HAVE MADE ENOUGH RELIEF AND WORK RULE CHANGES FOR THIS COMPANY TO MAKE A PROFIT. THEY AT THE TOP MAY WANT TO SELL IT OFF, IF SO, HOW MUCH MORE COULD THEY GET FOR YRC BEING THE LOWEST COST CARRIER IN THE NATION? WITH EVEN MORE GIVE BACKS AND WORK RULE CHANGES?WE MUST GET A FAIR PENSION CONTRIBUTION IN JANUARY NO MORE REDUCTIONS OR GIVE BACKS. REMEMBER THE TEAMSTERS AT ABF- JUST SAY  NO TO ANY MORE C0NCESSIONS. < E N O U G H > CF WAS THE UNION BUSTER WITH CONWAY,  NOW IT COULD BE YRC!!! JOIN ME IN SENDING A CLEAR MESSAGE NO TO CONCESSIONS!! RESTORE OUR PENSION IN 2011.A FAIR DAYS WORK FOR A FAIR DAYS PAY. D LOCAL 952

ITS TIME TO PUT LIMITS ON UTLITY DRIVERS  BETTER WORK RULES  TOO!!!  MAY A STOCK PURCHASE PROGRAM  I GIVE YOU 15% YOU GIVE ME STOCK WE GIVE CONSICIONS WHAT DO WE GET IN RETURN????? GET SOME OF ZOLLARS DOLLARS

What will proposed concessions be?   Perhaps the proposed concession will be to continue the temporary pension withdrawal.  Can the pension fund call it “temporary” if it extends another five years?  We will soon find out, because they need something in place well before the end of the year, when the pension withdrawal is scheduled to end.

Hey YRC Teamsters you deserve Hoffa,Tyson Johnson, and the next concession vote...Two times you voted and each time Yes votes over No grew...Now hoffa thinks he can get you to vote YES on anything...Truth is maybe he can...You don't show up for union meetings...You don't read no vote leaflets...You don't ask your rank & file leaders whats up...Stewards tell you vote no, you ignore them...Did you call local BA last vote...No  Did you send Hoffa/Tyson Johnson a letter...No   Did try to call International,local union,   No   Did you call TDU   No   Did you sign up for Teamster Voice bundles to inform teamsters at your barn...           no   Hey it's time to wake up you can't continue to fish,play with your bike, buy $10 beers at sporting events on weekend...and ignore union activities...It's time to get in game, join TDU,make a donation,sign up to get Teamster bundles to pass out in your barn,make plans to be at TDU convention in November...You have a voice , make it heard...

 I say tell YRC to stick it where the sun doesn't shine!  For those that are still working have taken 15% pay-cut plus a big reduction in hours. Between the reduction in hours and the 15% pay-cuts we have suffered approx. a 50 to 53% pay-cut. Did anyone in Management take a 50 to 53% reduction in pay? NO!!! If Not to mention how YRC lets their freight sit for days and even weeks before servicing the freight which causes more and more customers to jump ship and take their busness elsewhere. Then take a look at how YRC has used their people sending them to several different terminals to work 6 and 7 day work weeks and refusing to pay overtime for the sixth clock punch and double-time for the 7th clock punch. It's obvios that YRC is doing everything they can to screw it's employees.  Take a look at ABF, New Penn, Fed-Ex, UPS freight, Gator, AAA Cooper, Southeastern, Old Dominion, Holland, Reddaway, as well as others that operate profitably. If YRC hasn't learned how to manage by now they never will. Thay will just keep wanting more and more until they finally close the doors. So I say let em go now!!

CRAZY If everything that tdu says is true,then why is the IBT posting something different??

The International's posting does not specifically contradict what is accurately reported here. But it is awfully vague; as usual, coming from them. Freight Teamsters should consider the issues and talk with each other. This is not an easy decision, we can all agree on that. We all want to preserve Teamster jobs, and also preserve Teamster pensions, contracts and Teamster power.

The concession proposal will come out soon, probably within the next month. This proposal will be to replace the temporary pension withdrawal, which expires Dec. 31. We do not know the details of the proposal, but it will be worth about $350 million per year, which is approximately equal to the current pension withdrawal concession.

-- TDU.org

ZOLLARS WILL BE OUT NEXT YEAR WITH JUST CAUSE,  AND NOT SOON ENOUGH!HE HAS MADE A MESS OF OUR ONCE STRONG COMPANY AND CASHED IN BIG WHILE DOING THE DAMAGE. SEND THE IBT AND YRC PACKING IF THEY WANT ANY MORE CONCESSIONS.            """WE SHOULD HAVE NOT GIVEN UP AS MUCH AS WE HAVE""".                       {RESTORE     FULL      PENSION     IN     2011}             A FAIR DAYS WORK FOR A FAIR DAYS PAY !!!                 

You know before everyone gets carried away  lets see what they will  submit  to us as far as concessions . For the hardliners  on here . You should of all played tough guy a year and a half ago  while  this company still had assets to liquidate  and put into the pension fund .  Playing  tough guy now will only send you  home with a black eye  and no lunch money . Nobody knows what the concessions are  specifically this whole  thing has been very hush hush .  So  if you don't know   please   don't speculate .

We as teamsters need to stick together on this and say NO way on this latest round the International is trying to ram down our throats. The only thing the International is good for is asking us as rank and file members is to give back all the work our fellow teamsters that came before us has gained w/ the sweat and blood they have shed to get what we have now. The management @ YRC and the so called elected officals @ the International, who by the way are claiming to be looking out for our best interest here, ( LOL) that if this doesn't happen we at YRC are finished as a company. But the main question we have to ask ourselves as members is why are we they ones always giving back when nobody @ the International is or YRC management having to give back also. We as a whole need to be together on this, including mangement, the international and fellow members to work as one company to get through this rough patch. But as we can tell the only thing evident here is everbody knows how to do is line their pockets w/ more of our money that should be going to our families that count on us to provide for them. The management has NOT proven they can manage this company @ all considering this latest proposel. Yes they stopped taking wage increases, but no wage reductions as we have & behold they are still getting their bonuses while we suffer. If you do recall after the latest round of consessions didn't Mr Hoffa and Mr Tyson Johnson get a nice little raise in pay, along w/ the rest of their cronies down at the International? Ask yourself this, What are they gonna get from this latest round of consessions they are trying to get us to accept? We as teamsters need to be one voice and unite as one solid group and tell all the above we WILL NOT ACCEPT this latest round of consessions w/o bidding along over due GOODBYE to the management( all of them) @ YRC and the useless representation we get from the International. Sorry little long but THIS ALL needed to be said. Thanks my fellow teamsters for reading this and lets STAND our ground on this issue.

Until I get more details I will refrain from giving a thumbs up or down on proposed concessions. Some things I do know tough: If YRC closes its doors tomorrow, it could re-open the day after and wouldn't have any problem hiring truck drivers at $12-$14 an hour. I read that for every job opening today there are at least 5 people waiting in line to get a shot at it. There's a reason they call it the Great Recession. And I know that our working brothers and sisters at the non-union still don't have it all that good, even compared to our sorry-ass situation at YRC. Yes most of them drive shinny new rigs and have fancy gizmo technology, but so what? I know many senior guys at FX who sweat it every day because thay wonder if today might be their last.But on to the crux of my rant. As the brother previously stated"where were you a year and a half ago?" I would add - where were you and how did you vote last IBT election? To think that we would, and I say that collectively, re-elect a douche bag slate of officers is beyond my understanding. Now I know we have many pro sports enthusiasts in our union and it boggles my mind at how thay keep up with all the stats, the win/losses, etc. If you were at a game and the quarterback was throwing interceptions after interceptions or the pitcher was giving up too many runs we would be screaming for his head!! And after one terrible losing season expect him to be fired, traded, or maybe shot. So why the hell wasn't everybody working their asses off to get a change of leadership at the IBT in 2006???One thing is certain. As long as YRC is operating with Teamsters we have a chance once again next year to rid our union of the parasites that have been feeding off of it since '98. Don't Mourn - ORGANIZE!!    

The last round Zollars stated publicly "No out sourcing of work, it is a violation of article 32" Here at CVE Our management has continued to outsource work, they are way over on hours, our steward files grievance after grievance,and our Union is doing nothing about it. No more give backs. I am fine with YRC going out of business. Let it be known, this was not the fault of Teamsters, we did our fair share and more. We carried this company on our back sacrificing our families well being, and all we got was slapped in the face by our Union!

Give us back our 15% So we can invest it ourselfs seeing how there stock option is doing nothing for us. Another great plan by Zollars to operate on our money. The teamsters should have got rid of him along time ago and i'm not sure if Hoffa and Johnson should'nt go with him, there just protecting there jobs at this point

To you people that think we should just say no, what are you thinking? Do you think their are any jobs out there? Where will you go to work? We are in a depression weather you believe it or not. The company is in control and they can, let me repeat, they can, do whatever they want!! They know there's no jobs out there, and guess what, SO DO YOU!!!! If you know where I can go to work after they close let me know. Your gonna have to suck it up and keep working! Your able to put food on the table and feed your family. We all have to get through this, and that includes the whole country. This government is the cause of most of the problems in this country. If you wanna fix it, vote the bums out, and that includes Obama in two years too. So what are we gonna have to give up? Do you know yet? Maybe it will be the pension for a few more years, I know it sucks, but thats what we have been doing and if I have to, I will do it some more. At least I'm working and feeding my family and paying my bills.

The choice stinks. Choose "No" and join the ranks of the unemployed. Choose "Yes" and loose 5 more years towards retirement. I laugh at the hard line "vote No" people posting here. I am 110% pro Union in spite of the fact we have some house cleaning of our own to do. If YRC dies so will the union. Give them what they agree upon and fight another day with a battle that can be won.

The union is dead then. YRC will never pay into the pension again. They can't turn a profit with the concessions in place. If they survive (which I doubt) it will be decades before they will be in a position to give anything back. When and if that time comes (which I doubt) do you believe they will greatful and willing to give any concessions back? HELL NO! That will be another battle of its own. The union needs to cut their loses and let YRC die before they drag the whole union into the toilet with them. That might be their plan? If it is, it's working. Hopefully other union carriers will pick up the majority of the work and the members can get jobs there with the ability to earn the full union wage with a pension again.

Yeeeaaaahhhhh!, well said talbany1.
Stop living in the past. Look around, we are blessed to be working.
Who's the greedy now?
For all those who are complaining working for YRC Inc, there is a line in the concession agreement that states that you can go ( leave of absence) for a year and half to go anywhere to work without losing your status and if you want to come back for any reason, your are welcome back.
Brothers and sisters, sacrify the necesary time to get our company back to its feet. You'll be rewarded in the future.Trust me.

I see a strong parallel today between what happened to Ron Carey and what is taking place against the democrats and Obama. Carey was basically a good person, a Teamster that wanted to do good for all members and working people whose alleged wrong doings were manufactured because he was willing to take on the country's financial elite. The powers that be at that time (and they still exist today) wanted him out any any cost and they had (and still do – google Koch brothers) have the resources to wreak havoc until they prevail.

Carey was elected by the members, a first, after decades of abuse, arrogance, and mis-management by his Old Guard predecessors and his too brief tenure as the union's top officer was stopped, as was the reawakening of the labor movement in this country. So after the so called 'scandal', he was replaced by someone who was more pliable by the business establishment. Hasn't Hoffa Jr. proved to you by now what a corporate whore he is? You could also substitute Hoffa with Bush, because he was nothing if not a gopher for corporate interests. Just like Carey, Obama will need more then one term to undo all the damage created by the Bush/Cheney disaster and twenty-five years of Reagan's supply side economics, aided and abetted by weak-kneed democrats happy to go along while feasting on lobbyist's payola.

I will make a few recommendations. Find and read Thomas Frank's book:
WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH KANSAS. A few excerpts: Why do so many Americans vote against their economic and social interests? Where's the outrage at corporate thievery? Also search You-tube for Edward Bernay's-Century of Self.

Here's a little sample of Bernay's thinking:
In Propaganda (1928), Bernays argued that the manipulation of public opinion was a necessary part of democracy:
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. ...In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons...who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind."

Stop thinking that pro-business, right-wing republicans give a wit about you, your union, or your family. You will never be allowed into their club. And they will not be satisfied until they get it ALL back. It is up to us to make sure they DON'T! I have to hold my nose when I go to the voting booth and vote for a democrat, but that is better than grabbing my ankles after republicans get power. At least I still have one hand free to fight back with. It is not so much the political parties as it is the system, and the system is rigged.

How much do we have to give to a company that has not made a difference ? Enough is enough its time to say good bye to YRC.

lets see where are 15% is going now.... here in indy we have 7 people on mou (leave till the first of the year) or retired.... so instead of hiring new employes or over time we chose to send work out to out scource companys.... no over time sence augest 07.... told by mangament there is nothing you can do to get over time.... sound like a company willing to help us??? so why would we even think about helping them??? we are are wasting money hand over fist fixing us trucks to give to holland.... and selling off trucks we had parked for more than a year for pennys....

REDDAYWAY GETS NEW POWER AND NO LAY-OFFS, YET YRC SELLS NEWER TRUCKS FOR PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR. 15 PERCENT OFF MY WAGES HAS MADE THEM EVEN MORE GREEDY. WHEN DOSE IT STOP ??
THEY'RE GOING TO NEED A LOT OF PAD-LOCKS DO YA THINK ??

I understand concessions are a bitter pill to swallow, but you had better think carefully before you go shooting yourselves and others in the head... Incase you have not noticed, this is not 1973, if YRC closes there will be no union jobs to go to. Just in case you may not know, because the only job you have been fortunate to have has been a union one, most of the truck drivers in america now make less than half what we make, and do twice the work to get it. Here in Dallas you will do good to get a driving job that pays more than $12 an hour, you can make more, but you have to be bilingual. But wait you're an ex teamster, dont waste your time on the application, because about 30% of the employers out there will not even consider you, because of your former union ties. I know this because I have been looking and finding nothing. Also don't think f^%$ them I will just retire if they go out.. Good luck with that because your pension will last maybe a year at best before the fund is insolvent.. Should you be very lucky the pension guarantee corp, if it hasnt gone under by then, will take over your pension for about 1/3 of what you were gettion. All I hope is that you READ, the concesions when they are published, and Think before you vote.

commonsense, What if there was a way to cut most if not all claims out of our system, and have all shipments on TIME,and reduce overhead 25-30%? Would this help put Yrc back on TOP? I believe so. Well i have that idea that was tested for 15 years with an acc Roadway had. I have been trying to implement for the past couple years but have been running into heavy resistance even up to threats from local terminal mrg.Anyone have any ideas to HELP get this INFORMATION out to the right person to at least hear me out please speak up!! Time is of the essence. Commonsense.

Our union leadership is extremely weak. They are suicidal in there decisions and their advise to us. We are paying heavily for it now and will continue to pay for it in the future. Our leadership does not want us to make our own decisions or think for ourselves. They want to do it for us. They believe we are incapable of knowing what is best for ourselves. A perfect example was the concession vote in Chicago for YRC Inc, which I participated in. We voted the concession down. They did not respect our decision. We kept voting, and voting until we voted the way they wanted us to vote. Imagine if that is how all elections worked in the U.S.A. It would be a pretty scary place to live. We need strong leadership that will respect and support our wishes. One that will refrain from fear mongering its members. YRC cannot turn a profit with all the concessions in place. It will be decades before they will be in a position to even think about giving some of the concessions back if they even survive that long. YRC knows this and our leadership knows this. They won't tell you though. They are willing to keep your hopes up,and tell you what you to hear, while taking your hard earned wages and benefits from you and your families. I expect that from YRC, but not from the Union. We need strong leadership who will put the members and the union first, not their own best interests.

Those who are still working @ yrc should not work all th ot they want and be greedy, thants what yrc want's you to do, work harder and more hours so they dont need to hire anyone back for those people who do that they need to think about their brothers now living in poverty!

TO ALL REGULAR EMPLOYEES ARE WORKING "EXCESSIVE O.T." THESE BROTHERS SHOULD PASS THE WORK TO THE BROTHERS AT HOME WAITING FOR A CALL TO RETURN TO WORK. """DON'T BE AN OVERTIME HOG"""
PASS THE WORK TO A BROTHER WHO MAY NEED A PAY CHECK TOO.
SOON IT MAY BE YOU ON LAY OFF.
TRUE TEAMSTERS SHOULD THINK HARD !

I AM GLAD TO BE WORKING. I FEED MY FAMILY,I SEND MY SON TO SCHOOL, MY WIFE IS VERY SICK AND I AM GLAD WE HAVE OUR INSURANCE. YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE ASKING. ALL IM READING IS MEN WHO THINK THEY CAN JUST GO GET A JOB ANYTIME. GUESS WHAT IF YOU DONT LIKE IT HERE GET OUT. AS ONE WRITER WROTE GO FISH,RIDE YOUR BIKE AND TO WHAT EVER YOU WANT. I FOR ONE WILL WAIT READ WHAT THEY WANT AND PRAY TO GOD WE CAN HANDLE IT.I HAVE BENN DOING THIS JOB FOR A LONG TIME,YEARS AGO YOU COULD WALK DOWN THE STREET AND GET ANOTHER TRUCK DRIVING JOB.I AM NOT A DOCTOR I AM A DRIVER JUST LIKE THE REST OF YOU

Gentlemen: Personally, my opinion is that Mr. Zollars is going to keep requesting you to vote on increasingly insulting, degrading, and sub-standard agreements in the hope that you will finally say "Enough is enough" and refuse to ratify any further wage or pension concessions. At that point, he will loudly proclaim to the world "See! The Teamsters will not work with me to save this troubled company!", and YRC will enter Chapter 7 Reorganization, get a bankruptcy judge to allow them to shed the Union contract, and re-emerge from bankruptcy as a cut-rate , low-wage non-union carrier. People are wrong in thinking that YRC in bankruptcy will go the way of Consolidated Freightways; they will survive, the contract and many of their employees and families will not. The business world will get a lot of anti-Union mileage out of Mr. Zollars' claim that it was the Union that forced YRC into bankruptcy, they can threaten any organizing effort that the same will happen to their company. Frankly, it's a win-win situation for YRC. Mr. Zollars will continue to laugh until he wets his pants at every sucessful concession vote, just waiting for the day he can claim that "YRC employees are too greedy to help him save the company" by voting against a wage/pension concession package, so he can proceed with the bankruptcy proceedings. Or the employees can accept conditions, pay, and pensions that would be laughable in 1970. If the International doesn't see this, they are either criminally incompetent, or criminally complicit. My question is, why doesn't the IBT force YRC to sell off it's more profitable assets (New Penn?,Holland?, Roadway? Which one? Or all?) to raise cash? Something stinks here,don't you think? By the way, the 270 individual pension funds that YRC is involved with.How many of them have entered "red-zone" status because YRC has not paid into those funds for more than a year? This impacts ALL of us in Unions. Why didn't the IBT so-called leadership forsee this happening?

5 years ? come on !! what if the economy and the company turn around and were still giving back, as they reap profits... maybe another year and see then..HOFFA should have his head handed to him to even propose something like that to his employers. ( thats us people ! )

Although I work for UPS, I have watched in horror as our Union has pushed for unfair concessions from our Teamster members at YRC.

I have many friends at YRC that have suffered through these concessions and many that have lost their jobs all together. It is a terrible situation.

But, under these conditions, the Union is supposed to be honest and supportive of the membership. For their concessions, what have the members gotten in return?

If ther are more concessions, the union should ask that the 12% contractors be reduced. Contractors should be barred form working on the docks. The union should allow for pension self contributions, so that the most senior YRC employees might obtain an exit door.... and thereby opening a job for junior YRC members, many of whom are currently laid off.

It seems to me, although the union is responsible for working with the company during hard times, they are also supposed to safeguard the rights of the members. The IBT has only worked for the company, the IBT has neglected to work for the dues paying members.

Whether YRC members take more concessions is their decision and they should get to vote on that. As a fellow Teamster I will support whatever decision my YRC brothers and sisters make. But, I hope that the IBT leaders consider more options that might protect and benefit YRC Teamsters than they have in the last few years.